tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post1824888058553946111..comments2023-03-10T04:40:29.995-08:00Comments on ickeroo: Why Swing Dancers Love and Hate Electro SwingMorgan Dayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16405763983168742056noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-91327362215442488712015-06-16T07:09:21.402-07:002015-06-16T07:09:21.402-07:00I should do this. I'm gonna be looking for dan...I should do this. I'm gonna be looking for <a href="http://www.arizonadanceartistry.com/" rel="nofollow">dance classes Phoenix</a> by now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08475576794470915700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-88752591743060384572013-08-21T10:45:10.362-07:002013-08-21T10:45:10.362-07:00I've DJ'd some swing dance parties here in...I've DJ'd some swing dance parties here in the Bay Area, and whenever I put on a song by Big Bad Voodoo Daddy or Royal Crown Revue...I see a lot more dancing than cringing out there on the floor. Gerry Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14870190454993499852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-67335004674690147932013-07-04T05:22:36.122-07:002013-07-04T05:22:36.122-07:00Great post!!!
Have you listened to Red Light Dis...Great post!!!<br /><br />Have you listened to Red Light District.<br /> It has the musicality and not just the generic house crap.Shokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10775348592274305810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-73014265556806610072013-05-01T07:52:55.657-07:002013-05-01T07:52:55.657-07:00Great site. Interesting swing info. Not sure I agr...Great site. Interesting swing info. Not sure I agree with all, but I love this perspective. I would like to share my blog with you, too. I wrote a fiction novel about swing dancing in the 1940s and 1990s. <br /><br />Thanks Tam<br />http://www.girlinthejitterbugdress.comTam Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18288925164591030505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-51410478344583037132013-03-19T07:25:57.227-07:002013-03-19T07:25:57.227-07:00Hi there! I am an electro-swing blogger and have w...Hi there! I am an electro-swing blogger and have written a friendly rebuttal of this piece here! http://jackthecad.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/why-swing-dancers-shouldnt-hate-electro.html Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16467321603084666369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-84702694308549205162013-03-01T03:55:57.152-08:002013-03-01T03:55:57.152-08:00How am I just seeing this post? Great breakdown Mo...How am I just seeing this post? Great breakdown Morgan. I certainly agree that Electro Swing isn't for everyone. BUT those that enjoy electronica and house already will find that it is incredible to be able to merge these genres with swing/jazz. I in particular have an affection for this music because of that. I have a very eclectic taste in music and am always looking for the next thing to make me move! <br /><br />Since I have discovered Electro Swing about 2 years ago, I started the 1st ever Electro Swing Club division in the US. (Electro Swing Club Hollywood) I have been overwhelmed with folks wanting to know more about not only the genre but the culture, dancing and history associated with it. I don't know how big Electro Swing is going to get, but let's just say it's definitely not going away any time soon.<br /><br />IF YOU LIVE IN LOS ANGELES, CHECK OUT WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELECTROSWINGCLUBHOLLYWOOD and see what we're all about!<br />Swing Out,<br />MarshallMarshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11636964901981170935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-57273574640978818002012-11-30T07:14:44.699-08:002012-11-30T07:14:44.699-08:00Sounds like the same Pros and Cons about Neo-Swing...Sounds like the same Pros and Cons about Neo-Swing almost a decade ago. I remember someone saying that neo-Swing had two speeds, fast and faster.<br /><br />Great post!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05758376445237424211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-26507291533958271082012-11-29T16:35:55.752-08:002012-11-29T16:35:55.752-08:00Hey Morgan, great post!
Here in London the Electr...Hey Morgan, great post!<br /><br />Here in London the Electro Swing scene is pretty popular with non-lindy dancers, as well as a pretty decent lindy following too. You get the same polar opinions about it though! <br /><br />We regularly dance at one of the original electro swing nights, with psuedo performance social dancing and generally having a good time. One of the sweet things is that they invite us to DJ during the night too - with classic swing tracks! It's a great way of crossing over on common ground; they get to see us dancing to the music they came to hear, and then to the sweet melodies of trad jazz (which they then enjoy as well). I think it gives them an appreciation for the dance and where the music comes from. As a side note, we do get plenty of people coming along to try classes from it as well.<br /><br />The musical gap between our jazz world and someone who's only been exposed to modern music is pretty decent sometimes, and I reckon it's great to have a way to meet half way and say hi :-)<br /><br />Cheers from London,<br />BenSwingcopationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213180752425049014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-20335739049584284932012-11-28T01:31:06.456-08:002012-11-28T01:31:06.456-08:00I have just discovered your blog. Your blog is ado...I have just discovered your blog. Your blog is adorable, and interesting. I'm enjoy read your post.<br /><br /><br />By<br />Addy Watson<br /><a href="http://estebanconde.com/" rel="nofollow">Private Dance Lessons </a><br /><br />addy watsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17945891209647911005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-23441480409233085272012-11-27T14:59:06.583-08:002012-11-27T14:59:06.583-08:00Not complaining, or expecting things to change. I...Not complaining, or expecting things to change. I'm just offering a different perspective. And I actually think solo dancing is more of the way to go, but I'd like to see more style inspired by the original dancers is all.<br /><br />As for BPM, swing dancers definitely count 8th notes. Quarter notes don't feel right. Charleston is an 8-count dance, that fills a measure, so as swing dancers, that's where our dancing comes from. I would actually say that you're half timing the tempo, rather than saying we're double timing it . . . but we're from different worlds. :-)Morgan Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16405763983168742056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-23434823994929455022012-11-27T14:10:55.348-08:002012-11-27T14:10:55.348-08:00I think there's an important point to be made ...I think there's an important point to be made about dancing to what music is asking for. In the case of electroswing, what people do with their triple steps is a thing I like to watch.<br /><br />What about the triple steps (or more generally what should you do with the 3&4)? Electroswing almost always demands a triplet rather than the swung triple. If you noticed, Soo Chan Lee and Hyun Jung Choi made their triple steps follow the triplet rhythm and thus stayed faithful to the song they were dancing to. This is important. <br /><br />I've seen people still using the swung triplets while dancing to music that does not swing, and I think that's just as wrong as playing the different notes than what is written in a symphony orchestra. However, I do think it can purposefully be employed as a contrast to the music just as a straight rhythm can be employed when the underlying rhythm is swung. I guess what I am saying: is be intentional about going against the music and make it special, not something to be done all the time. <br /><br />"Any social group requires a constant influx of new people in order to stay alive, and the swing scene is no different." I'm all for having people check out swing dancing by listening to electroswing, but the traditional styles are more than enough to draw people into the scene. <br /><br />I think the scene has grown and changed on its own, but I don't think electroswing fits the bill or helps the scene in anyway that the traditional jazz doesn't already do better.<br /><br />*I'm up for changing my opinions, and I love discussion; however, this is how I currently feel about it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182636276556720237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-71514902601884243752012-11-27T14:02:35.699-08:002012-11-27T14:02:35.699-08:00"a lot of people who enjoy electro swing have..."a lot of people who enjoy electro swing have no interest in actually dancing to it"<br /><br />... Let's be fair, here: you mean, partner-dancing to it. Please don't discriminate against some very talented dancers who enjoy dancing solo.<br /><br />And that's just it; the problem here isn't electroswing. The problem is traditional swing dancers being invited into the electroswing scene, and then assuming they will run the show. That the environments they operate within will be catered to in a club environment. Electroswing is "club music". Electronica. It's modern dance music. Sure, some has a swing beat, and some has swing samples and sounds... but it is not traditional swing, and doesn't aim to be. Nor does it set out to provide swing dancers with the same experience they can get at their social dances. It's different, and if you go into it expecting the same, you'll be disappointed.<br /><br />"Is there no room for some mid tempo songs"<br /><br />You may want to talk to your local DJ about what he's spinning. Not all DJs spin all subgenres, but if you ask them to look into the following (or tell them you'd enjoy some variety like the below) they may just surprise you:<br />The swinghop genre ranges from 75-95BPM.<br />The ghettoswing genre ranges from 99-115BPM.<br />Swinghouse is around 120-130BPM.<br />Classic "electroswing" is generally 125-150BPM.<br />Nusoul is often around 135-160.<br />Nujazz can run the gamete. Northern Jazz as well.<br /><br />Double-time those tempos for what dancers like to call the tempo (not sure why dancers count eigth notes, but DJs count quarter notes).<br /><br />In short, it's a new experience in the US. Help build it, or leave it, but complaining that it's not the same swing... is missing the point.The artist formerly known as...https://www.blogger.com/profile/12147242031566378965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-35912876607132074922012-11-27T12:21:25.458-08:002012-11-27T12:21:25.458-08:00I pretty much agree. I've tried to give it a ...I pretty much agree. I've tried to give it a fair shake and found I like some Electro Swing at least for listening. I've found that it can often be put into one of two buckets; music by actual musicians with a bit of sampling incorporated or music my mix DJs with a bit of real music created by actual musicians included. I generally don't mind the former but really dislike the latter for the same sort of reasons as this blog post.Toon Town Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01972731183078655109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-65597508134325980742012-11-27T12:16:04.768-08:002012-11-27T12:16:04.768-08:00Haha, you unwittingly (I assume) answered the blog...Haha, you unwittingly (I assume) answered the blog question I posted yesteday at LindyGroove Technique.Fad23https://www.blogger.com/profile/04664753834152760821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2800391020341998432.post-46396338143566341762012-11-27T12:00:40.264-08:002012-11-27T12:00:40.264-08:00I honestly love it, not to dance to, but to listen...I honestly love it, not to dance to, but to listen to. I love interesting interpretations of classic jazz music, and also love electronic music, so this fits my bill. But I still don't want to dance to it, give me some classic Basie for that.-Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08481370069244244570noreply@blogger.com